Comments on: Countries Challenge Climate Change in Copenhagen http://www.usdemocrazy.net/2009/12/08/countries-challenge-climate-change-in-copenhagen/ Trying to Make Sense of Our Democracy Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:17:23 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: anonymous http://www.usdemocrazy.net/2009/12/08/countries-challenge-climate-change-in-copenhagen/comment-page-1/#comment-722 anonymous Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:10:00 +0000 http://www.usdemocrazy.net/?p=4353#comment-722 Until I see climate change advocates account for sources of CO2 from beneath our feet and heat/radiation from sources external to the earth, this is another get rich scam off of junk science! Stick a CO2 srubber on a volcano or gas vent below the ocean and see if you stll think man is major contributer. Damn shame to guilt trip people for the sake of making money... Until I see climate change advocates account for sources of CO2 from beneath our feet and heat/radiation from sources external to the earth, this is another get rich scam off of junk science! Stick a CO2 srubber on a volcano or gas vent below the ocean and see if you stll think man is major contributer. Damn shame to guilt trip people for the sake of making money…

]]> By: Notfooled http://www.usdemocrazy.net/2009/12/08/countries-challenge-climate-change-in-copenhagen/comment-page-1/#comment-719 Notfooled Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:23:24 +0000 http://www.usdemocrazy.net/?p=4353#comment-719 Considering the miniscule amount of time (compared to the span of Earth's history) that we have been industrialized, we simply can not have caused global warming, but in the 40 years since someone came up with global warming, we have moved increasingly towards allowing ourselves to become subject to oppressive legislation that will undoubtedly impact economies around the world. Carbon is a natural byproduct of life on earth and important aspect of carbon emissions is that we did not have the technology to measure them in the past. Blindly following data with no comparison to history, while making drastic claims is not scientific at all. While I do 100% believe in reduce, recycle, reuse, and that reducing emissions and pollution are all extremely important, I do NOT believe that Humans in the industrialized countries are capable of changing something as HUGE as a global climate. In fact, we know that the global climate does have cycles (Warming for the 2 centuries before the black plague at which time a drastic cooling trend occurred), and certainly back then people probably thought that the warming was caused by their actions, too (Although more likely linked to a deity). I think before the countries of the world sign their souls away, the 30,000 scientists (9,000 PhDs) who do NOT agree with the general consensus on global warming should have a forum. [Remember, there was once a general consensus in science that the world was flat and that if you sailed too far you would fall off.] While 30,000 scientists is not a huge number on a global scale, keep in mind that (at least in the USA) scientists loose their funding if they do any research against global warming). If they are wrong, and those that disagree do not have science to back it up, what is the harm? But if global warming science doesn't hold up to criticism, WHY would our leaders sign a restricting pact that would effect industry and economy for YEARS to come? Considering the miniscule amount of time (compared to the span of Earth’s history) that we have been industrialized, we simply can not have caused global warming, but in the 40 years since someone came up with global warming, we have moved increasingly towards allowing ourselves to become subject to oppressive legislation that will undoubtedly impact economies around the world. Carbon is a natural byproduct of life on earth and important aspect of carbon emissions is that we did not have the technology to measure them in the past. Blindly following data with no comparison to history, while making drastic claims is not scientific at all.

While I do 100% believe in reduce, recycle, reuse, and that reducing emissions and pollution are all extremely important, I do NOT believe that Humans in the industrialized countries are capable of changing something as HUGE as a global climate. In fact, we know that the global climate does have cycles (Warming for the 2 centuries before the black plague at which time a drastic cooling trend occurred), and certainly back then people probably thought that the warming was caused by their actions, too (Although more likely linked to a deity).

I think before the countries of the world sign their souls away, the 30,000 scientists (9,000 PhDs) who do NOT agree with the general consensus on global warming should have a forum. [Remember, there was once a general consensus in science that the world was flat and that if you sailed too far you would fall off.] While 30,000 scientists is not a huge number on a global scale, keep in mind that (at least in the USA) scientists loose their funding if they do any research against global warming). If they are wrong, and those that disagree do not have science to back it up, what is the harm? But if global warming science doesn’t hold up to criticism, WHY would our leaders sign a restricting pact that would effect industry and economy for YEARS to come?

]]> By: Freedom http://www.usdemocrazy.net/2009/12/08/countries-challenge-climate-change-in-copenhagen/comment-page-1/#comment-712 Freedom Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:17:07 +0000 http://www.usdemocrazy.net/?p=4353#comment-712 I will continue to drive my 12mpg Jeep until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands. I will continue to drive my 12mpg Jeep until someone pries it from my cold, dead hands.

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